A Twitter conversation with "Non-Meta Stephen" (Note: I will refer to him as "Stephen" from this point forward) was partial inspiration for me to write this blog entry on homosexuals and his proclamation that one can be gay and a Christian simultaneously. I should further mention that Stephen has not confirmed (with me personally) whether he is gay or not. And if he is not "gay," then what I can at least confirm is that he is in fact a supporter and advocate for "gay" or "homosexual" Christianity. His Twitter statements and responses seem "typical" at least to the degree and experience that I have had living both in and around Jewish and gay communities in various large cities in the US.
As I have seen in gay communities as well as on Twitter (via of Stephen and a number of others), there are some homosexuals who claim that one can be "homosexual" and a "Christian" at the same time! Unfortunately to the gays who are reading this, I can think of no verses in the Holy Bible (Old or New Testaments) that condones the homosexual lifestyle by any means. There are plenty of verses that condone heterosexuality, as that form of sexuality is the type that God created for the purposes of procreation.
As for verses that condemn acts of homosexuality, there are a fair number of verses in both the Old Testament (OT) and New Testament (NT). In the OT, there is Genesis 19 describing the sin of Sodom, as well as a fair number of other verses.
And in the NT, Romans 1:26-28, 32 serves as key verses that are critical to the understanding the nature of homosexuality and how it violates God's intent for the natural order.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. (Romans 1:26-28, 32 NASB)Dr. Jay Adams, a biblical counselor with a laundry list of counseling periodicals had this to say regarding the Romans 1 verses here:
The NT is clear about the fact that homosexuality is not of the Lord, and will not lead us down a proper spiritual path. Stephen criticized my reference to Romans 1:26-28, 32 as being "too vague" as if Paul was making little or no reference to homosexuality. He further stated that my interpretation was over fifty (50) years old, and therefore no longer valid. I would have to respectfully disagree and to state that while the specific details may be omitted in these verses, it is obvious that Paul was definitely referring to acts of homosexuality (i.e. "men with men committing indecent acts...", women with women, etc.). Only a homosexual wanting to deny the validity of these verses would go so far as to say, Paul was not referring to acts of homosexuality.
In discussing Romans 1:26-28, 32, Jay Adams states it clearly: "In verse 26 Paul speaks of homosexuality as a "degrading passion," in verse 27 as an "indecent act" and "an error," in verse 28 the improper activity of a "depraved mind," and verse 32 declares it is "worthy of death." One is not a homosexual constitutionally any more than one is an adulterer constitutionally. Homosexuality is not considered to be a condition, but an act. It is viewed as a sinful practice which can become a way of life. The homosexual act, like the act of adultery, is the reason for calling one a homosexual (of course, one may commit homosexual sins of the heart, just as one can commit heterosexual sins of the heart. He may lust after a man in his heart as another may lust after a woman). But precisely because homosexuality, like adultery, is learned behavior into which men with sinful natures are prone to wander, homosexuality can be forgiven in Christ, and the pattern can be abandoned and in its place proper patterns can be reestablished by the Holy Spirit."9 (Jay Adams, The Christian Counselors Manual, p. 406.)
Then add 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 into the mix. These verses add some additional information condemning acts of homosexuality.
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NASB)In the above verses, it is very clear that God will hold the homosexual no more guilty of sexual sin than He will the fornicator or adulterer. In my study of the Holy Bible, I have not been able to find anything that condones homosexuality. Everything I have studied in the Bible shows God's clear condemnation of this type of sexual lifestyle.
Therefore, for the above reasons, I conclude that it is not possible to be a "homosexual" and a "Christian" at the same time. However, it is possible to be a "Jew" and a "homosexual" at the same time.
39% of reformed American Jews (under Judaism) are now in total endorsement of sodomy:
"We hold that homosexuality is no longer {an abomination}; it is not a mental illness or social deviancy; it is not a perversion of the natural order. Homosexuality is not a choice or a preference; it is not something that one decides to do or abstain from doing. It is, like, heterosexuality, the way one is. As such it makes no sense on religious or moral grounds to differentiate between people on the basis of sexual orientation." (Judaism & Homosexuality by Ted Pike 9-22-06).And among more "conservative" Jews (under Judaism), the Talmud allows homosexuality between grown men and young boys (under age 9). Sanhedrin 69b & 55a provide the following endorsement here:
So for all of you unrepentant homosexuals or pedophiles, you too can continue your sexually sinful lifestyles and proclaim faith in God at the same time! That is exactly what Jews do who proclaim Judaism as their religion. What most Jews do not understand is that they cannot know or come to God without Jesus (ref. John 14:6).
- Sanhedrin 69b summarizes: "All agree that the connection of a boy age nine years and a day is a real connection; while that of one less than eight years is not." 4
- The majority opinion in Sanh. 55a states: "Rab. said: pederasty with a child below 9 years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that" "Rab. maintains that only he who is able to engage in sexual intercourse, may, as the passive subject of pederasty, throw guilt [upon the active offender]; while he who is unable to engage in sexual intercourse cannot" 5 (Judaism & Homosexuality by Ted Pike 9-22-06).
Thus, just who are the most influential and powerful people pushing the pro-homosexual movement? Pastor Rick Rogers asserts the following:
Therefore, if it is politicians and "Hollywood" that are pushing the pro-homosexual movement, why aren't people asking just who the rats are behind these prevailing institutions? Well, even those who are tuned into alternative news sources like Alex Jones' Infowars dot com website, are also on the receiving end of false information! If "truthers" are to believe Alex Jones, they will likely believe that "Arabs run Hollywood!" Wrong! It is Jews that run Hollywood. If you do not believe what I am saying, then you need to read and view my previous blog entry by clicking HERE!
The pro-homosexual movement is very aggressive and "in your face", and is often backed and supported by leading 1 politicians and Hollywood types.2
[1] Then President Bill Clinton met with members of the Democratic National Committee of Gays and Lesbians, and stated that I think weve got a much better chance to pass (pro-gay and lesbian legislation) in 2000, and I hope you will help me with that I have said many times, I wish we could have done more [to promote the homosexual agenda] but Im glad we did what we did. Marc Lacey, Clinton tells Gays He Will Seek to Change Way Dont Tell Policy is Used, New York Times, 17 December 1999, p. A28. Concerned Women for America states, President Clinton is telling you and the American people that its time you were forced to accept homosexuality as a normal and acceptable lifestyle. The president is saying that its time to give same-sex love civil rights protection. How is the homosexuality community doing this? Through public schools, media, celebrity endorsement, gay militants, literature, television,
[2] Those who have endorsed homosexuality directly or indirectly include Elton John, Ellen Degeneres, Tom Hanks, Roseanne, Kelsey Grammer, Boy George,
R. K. Harrison, Encyclopedia of Biblical and Christian Ethics, pp. 182, 393-394. (Homosexuality by Pastor Rick Rogers.)
Now, that you the reader have read this blog entry, can you now begin to understand why "gay Christian" supporters (like Stephen) not only twist Scripture to meet their desired sinful sexual preferences, but that they also ardently support Jews, Israel & their mainline "establishment" machine? In fact, as unrepentant as many gays are, and as proud as they are about their homosexuality, they would find more acceptance in a Jewish synagogue (i.e. a "Synagogue of Satan" ref: Revelation 2:9, 3:9)! In my experience, gay communities love the Jewish-controlled "big banks!" Wells Fargo and Bank of America are major supporters of extravagant "gay pride" parades and other major events. In most gay communities, there tend to be fewer small businesses (focused upon high quality), and a larger number or corporate retail chains...e.g., Starbucks, etc. I contend that most gays are drinking the deadly "establishment Kool Aid" and they don't even know it!
My message to homosexuals, and particularly those desiring to follow Christ, you will need God's grace to break your pattern. But know this much: You cannot continue down the path of homosexuality and be one of God's chosen at the same time. You must choose the One or the other! One leads to life, the other to death, pain, and suffering! And don't play semantics with me! I don't need to be any more explicit in my statements than I have been in this blog entry!
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